The New MacBook Pro - M1 Max/Pro

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    My review of the new 14 and 16" M1 Pro and Max MacBooks are coming soon. Here's are my early thoughts

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i hope apple's charts are wrong

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Andrii Mynka
Andrii Mynka

@AB. Digital why so? We've all seen the tests, it's pretty close to OLED without the burning... Yes it still has some blooming in extreme cases, but we also gotta keep in mind that this is just the second generation of MICROLED producta

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Orlando Rodriguez
Orlando Rodriguez

@Yassine B I mean if you look at the GFX Benchmark for the Aztec it far surpassed the 100W 3080 and absolutely crushed the 3060. So it did actually outperform it, again we need more detailed reviews and analysis of this. The TombRaider test is testing gaming performance which is dumb since Apple GPU are clocked much lower than RTX 3080 and obviously would lose in such a test but when it comes to more compute practical applications I think we will see a bigger lead on the M1 Max. Again I could be totally wrong this is just me spitballing here from my current understanding of the tech. Also GeekBench is not a good performance evaluator for GPU’s compared to other tests out there so I always take those tests with a mountain sized serving of salt. Dont get me wrong if it truly turns out that Apple did in fact deceive their buyers on performance claims then I will for sure turn agaisnt them but as of yet, I havent seen that. Also and this is something that occured to me recently, Shadow of the tomb raider IS NOT OPTIMIZED FOR M1 MEANING ITS RUNNING THROUGH ROSETTA AND YET SOMEHOW AN EMULATED GAME SCORED 83 FRAMES PER SECOND AT 1440P THINK ABOUT THAT.

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Yassine B
Yassine B

@Orlando Rodriguez That's my point, they showed that it outperformed already existing GPUs and now we know that it doesn't, which makes Apple a bunch of liars.

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Orlando Rodriguez
Orlando Rodriguez

@Yassine B Thats a fair point and again Im more than willing to agree with you but I want more results first before we make that conclusion, I know that for gaming it wont compete with the 3080 and what not. But Im curious in other benchmarks and real world performance tests that what I care most about.

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Pavan Kumar
Pavan Kumar

They will be

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TheOne1One1One1One
TheOne1One1One1One

The Notch is unnecessary. It works on the iPhone but not on MacBooks

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Xavier lee
Xavier lee

apple literally just walked up to intel and AMD with a shotgun and woke them tf up

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MTraDer
MTraDer

Apple only put that notch in there just so after 2 years they can get rid of it and call it innovation 😂🤣🤣

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Rajesh J
Rajesh J

There are many softwares not supported yet on ARM chip Mac, like Java apps, databases to run on etc!

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S B
S B

The design is terrible! It's as thick as a brick (10 years old design)! He has bangs. (Are you serious? Could you make the top frame a little bigger? I waited and wanted to buy, but it looks like a Chinese fake.

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vbddfy euuyt

M1 macs had great gpu performance imo. Remember you and MKBHD saying that there would be early adapter problems? You guys were wrong.

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Wobbly
Wobbly

Where are the M1-native software? There's your early adopter problem.

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Ashley Lahm
Ashley Lahm

4:05 - You’re the first YouTuber I’ve watched talk about the new Macs and to raise the idea that the 16” models might have higher operating power which would indeed make sense 👍🏻

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vbddfy euuyt
vbddfy euuyt

Would love to see some gaming benchmarks with the new M1 chips, looking forward to your future vids!

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48956l
48956l

"M! Max and M1 pro are empirically better products if those charts aren't lies" This isn't entirely true. There is a case where M1 Pro/Max are worse than chips that compute less for more energy, and that case relies on software compatibility. We've seen in gaming benchmarks that the Pro/Max perform far worse than the 3080 simply because there are essentially no games designed to run on these chips. World of Warcraft is the only one I'm aware of that is.

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48956l
48956l

@vbddfy euuyt Exactly my point. They can have the most powerful hardware in the world, if it doesn't run what you want it to, they're not better.

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vbddfy euuyt
vbddfy euuyt

But can I use my MacBook for both work and gaming... I think not :/ Still waiting for that day

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Caleb Steele
Caleb Steele

Did you test the apple silicon premier pro, or still x86? I had a couple apps that had to force over to apple silicon or use the store for to get them on apple silicon vs running the x86 versions. I only ask because they had premier pro as part of their event I thought, so it would be weird for adobe not to have optimized it yet (unless its still coming)

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bcvbb hyui

my use cases.

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Evan Crane
Evan Crane

0:36 *GB/s and Memory *Bandwidth

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Ran shtub
Ran shtub

There is any chance to check parallels with solidworks? Or at least if parallels works?

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bcvbb hyui
bcvbb hyui

Notch is a bad design. PERIOD.

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Prateek Kothari
Prateek Kothari

It’s 200gb/s for the M1 pro. Your bandwidth specs are wrong @Dave!

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Gianpa Kasa
Gianpa Kasa

Good point you made, about the charge.

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Greg Smith
Greg Smith

Nice shirt dude.

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kjetiloo
kjetiloo

M1 macs had great gpu performance imo. Remember you and MKBHD saying that there would be early adapter problems? You guys were wrong.

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Mitch James
Mitch James

The price is the biggest turn off.

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crwhhx
crwhhx

about battery life, web browsing time is still less than the 13 inch M1 macbook pro, based on their spec sheets

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Randy
Randy

apple is that guy who goes on to succeed when he dumps the ex.

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Alejandro Renteria
Alejandro Renteria

If this is true i will switch to mac.

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Royal Gao
Royal Gao

Isn’t the ram 200gb/s or 400gb/s?

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chadizdroid
chadizdroid

The notch comes for free with the apple, iPhone, and MacBook, b eat that!

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soppan96
soppan96

But can I use my MacBook for both work and gaming... I think not :/ Still waiting for that day

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James Fiegel
James Fiegel

Laptop it’s about battery run time Apple new laptops WIN over WIN😜

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James Fiegel
James Fiegel

PC buying will drop by a Third in late 2021😏

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Techytech
Techytech

It’s a shame the pricing has been set for these not to be for mass market.

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Ashish Vyas
Ashish Vyas

Notch is a bad design. PERIOD.

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Andrew Muchira
Andrew Muchira

This is a great review. Now I'm amped-up for these new MacBooks

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wnnalis cioov
wnnalis cioov

bull** … thanks for that👌

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Tim Sniffen
Tim Sniffen

Dave, in one of your upcoming videos on the 14 inch model, please address palm comfort. I had a 13 inch 2013 Macbook Pro for years and gave it up because the sharp edge below the trackpad always dug into my palms or wrists and made the unit uncomfortable. Is the new model more rounded? Is the deck longer so that this is no longer an issue? I don't live where I can go check one out.

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Jacques VABRE
Jacques VABRE

Review of what? air? -_-

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CFUSIONMAN
CFUSIONMAN

Dude, a toolbox and a fish tank? I'm dying. LOL.

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rk
rk

Don't be poor

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wnnalis cioov
wnnalis cioov

999K views right now

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MD TANVIR
MD TANVIR

Plz give us review quickly

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C Ryan
C Ryan

hahah, the cursor!

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Frank Sz
Frank Sz

Apple may have the alternative to those graphics chip dependent gaming laptops and desktops and with all the people who couldn't get a graphics card for over a year now . And these laptops are NOT expensive, comparably what a graphics card goes for these days. AMD and Nvidia may have to buckle up, especially Nvidia and their price games, people will buy a $2000 laptop instead, and leave their ecosystem - along with Windows -- for good.

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Wobbly
Wobbly

You can get a Legion 5 Pro with 5800H and 3070 for less than $2000. Only M1 Max Macbooks can deliver a similar level of gaming performance on *some* games, and for significantly higher price.

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Tsering Wangdue
Tsering Wangdue

What's the best laptop to buy in around $600. Can you recommend any?

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Samuel Johnson
Samuel Johnson

Hello. Video idea? I’m on the fence of whether to buy a fast Microsoft software running laptop or one of the latest fast Apple laptops. Can you compare some comparable fast MS software based computers from let’s say Dell/HP/Lenovo VS. Apple laptops? It would really help anyone trying to decide whether to stay with a MS based laptop or go with Apple’s. It would be great to see some benchmarks and your general review of these going head to head. Thanks.

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Ronaldo
Ronaldo

looks like apple are going all out this time instead of holding back a little like they always do. We might not see them top this product for a long time...

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Prof. Dr. Mike Hawk
Prof. Dr. Mike Hawk

The thing is, you're gonna use Razer for gaming. What're you gonna use Macbook Pro's gpu for? Nothing if you only game. So, completely pointless if you don't buy into apple's ecosystem. Put a 3090 in the Macbook Pro, hell, let Nvidia make a new gpu, 4090, 5090, 6090 or whatever. Still worthless to someone who plays games. There's no point to buy one if you can't game on the fucking thing. And then there's you talking about it's keyboard, sound system and what have you. Completely pointless review. This is of course, assuming those who use this for professional reasons don't exist. May as well, by the way, because those people will be happy with whatever laptop apple produces. They were already happy with the M1.

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SeppuKun
SeppuKun

Apple's macbooks are gonna rape these stupid clunky buggy windows PC. What a surprise actually. This move is quite unlike Apple to basically build the dream laptop. I bought a $3000 (a lot of money to me) MSI GS65 with a 2060. It sucks. Still use my mac way more. It's constantly plugged in. If I use as it's intended as a portable laptop... I'd be lucky if I can get 1 hours battery life out of it, not to mention it has to throttle down by at least half speed so it's almost useless as a laptop.Then there's the sheer amount of heat generated... you can't use these on your lap without burning the shit out of it. And the trackpad is way too wide so you keep touching it unintentionally. And the keyboard layout is crap and so you keep hitting the wrong keys. And windows can't catch up even if they tried to because they can't have an OS that satisfies all hardware configurations without signification compromise. Apple can do it since they control everything.

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Jignesh Panchal
Jignesh Panchal

Performance Straight out of Charts.....

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Naved Ali Khan
Naved Ali Khan

I think the performance bumps are a lot to do with MC OS vs Windows OS performance... Because apple does have a great Operating System which makes the most of these high-end configs.

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Matière Grise
Matière Grise

Stay with M1 if you are pro producer. M1 pro and max have same power than M1 in singlecore

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Simon Wang

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Soham Hudnurkar
Soham Hudnurkar

999K views right now

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Howard
Howard

seeing its apple, i am like 80% sure they lied, at least partially

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ogundeko adegbenga
ogundeko adegbenga

Can't wait for the full review...if what you just mentioned are true and same as what's on their website....that's helluva INSANELY GAMECHANGER.....🤯🤯🤯🤯

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William Cohen
William Cohen

One thing you did not mentioned was the "impressive price" of these units.

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Samwell Cirilo
Samwell Cirilo

It doesnt matter how powerful it is when you cant game on it! Cant install steam or epic games lol 👀

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kevininsimi
kevininsimi

Really can't understand why they put a notch there. Stupid design.

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abbsnn cose
abbsnn cose

I feel like M1 Max is a dream for graphics workflows. Hope you put those M1 GPUs through some scenarios that'll highlight the unified memory (compared to Windows laptop

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Chris Glisson
Chris Glisson

this is awesome but can you even game on a MacBook? Are most games even supported on that platform, without having to install windows on the mac?

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Christos Binos
Christos Binos

Apple is out here making me want a MacBook for the first time in my life.

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BC
BC

Apple, the 'notch kings'.

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Ziyan Baloch
Ziyan Baloch

All that power is great, but that'll only be useful for video editing and rendering, you still won't be able to play games on a Mac device.

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Pratham Reddy
Pratham Reddy

who buys macbooks for games just make your mind bitch if you want to game BUY a gaming laptop this is for PURELY professionals

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Rihsyan Adam Riansyah
Rihsyan Adam Riansyah

2022: Apple discrete GPU only $1999

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NightFury
NightFury

Okay, Apple got my attention here.

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Prannoy Nair
Prannoy Nair

What is that watch you're wearing? Is that the DW 5600?

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RS232
RS232

does it Ray Trace? Game over

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Dave Sullivan
Dave Sullivan

I've never been more excited about computers. Wow!!!

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Rodolfo Nóbrega
Rodolfo Nóbrega

Back in full with the table. This time with this horrible file cabinet behind you. Thank God you are an amazing YouTuber! 😂😂

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Yasir Irshad
Yasir Irshad

If Apple laptops are what they're claiming to be right now, they're my next devices.

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Akil Krishnan
Akil Krishnan

I feel like M1 Max is a dream for graphics workflows. Hope you put those M1 GPUs through some scenarios that'll highlight the unified memory (compared to Windows laptops).

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Kaelan Jude
Kaelan Jude

“And Tim Cook is saying ‘no cap’ really cracked me lmao

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iCarlosKH
iCarlosKH

Well… this is something different than iJustine saying: hey why are you hating on the notch? It looks like the iPhone, ppl like the iPhone you must like that shit in the middle of the screen, I don’t care if you play video games (assuming you can play video games on the M1 max). I really appreciate the impartial review of tech devices you do, not the fanboy review, great job man.

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dolita windo
dolita windo

Would love to see some gaming benchmarks with the new M1 chips, looking forward to your future vids!

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Eric
Eric

It will be interesting to see how the performance holds up in real world usage and if the performance is consistent or is only that fast in certain workloads and benchmarks. There's also the issue of being limited to MacOS and only applications that have been ported to M1 and the very high price of the actually fast models. That said, it's neat to see what kind of performance and efficiency gains a modern RISC architecture can potentially bring, this is the future of computing IMHO once we can get good enough performance and emulators to support the huge backlog of x86 code.

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Jorgidan 92
Jorgidan 92

Apple is gonna rule the world

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dolita windo
dolita windo

Please i want to buy dell alienware x17 with i9 processor can you provide me with a link to buy 💔 i would really appreciate it

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Tomasz L
Tomasz L

will you test 14 with 16 ac adapter ?

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ickng456
ickng456

Apple will remotely delete your personal data if they deem it to be misinformation

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Travis T
Travis T

Yes because Apple has NEVER made a false performance claim...... cmon...

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Chandu
Chandu

Apple fans : woww Apple : notch Fans : zbshhejsjsjajanajshbsgsgss

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Martin Kurshumov
Martin Kurshumov

Interesting move by Apple, just when a chip shortage crisis arise, they release an incredible chip. Also the new MacBook includes so much new stuff unlike previous announcements where there were only incremental upgrades to their MacBooks. If the charts are true we can surely say they've killed PC.

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George Andre
George Andre

Apple is for rich class , so no thanks , fuck them .

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Pratham Reddy
Pratham Reddy

my middle class family has bought apple so why? are you saying this especially cause this is a work laptop the people that say a product is for only rich people ARE THE MOTHERFUCKERS

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RusticRaver
RusticRaver

I disagree regarding your comment of underclocking M1-max for the 14inch laptop - reason being is look at the M1 chip in the iPad compared with Air and Pro - the only performance difference between them is thermal limitations on prolonged synthetic benchmarks. I think it's purely for fast charging a much larger battery. Also, the M1-Pro 32 core GPU teraflop rating would suggest those charts are accurate, potentially conservative. There's also the 400GB bandwith and 16 CHANNELS on the 64GB GDDR5LP ram to factor in - would be interesting to see what happens there as a differentiator in performance.

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TheQuatum
TheQuatum

Having a hard time buying a Surface Laptop Studio when these things obliterate it in every metric other than touchscreen

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Elijah Lozano
Elijah Lozano

Windows SUCKS and pc gaming is overrated. Yeah because I really want to game at a desk after working at a desk for 8 hours.

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Anshul Kamboj
Anshul Kamboj

Can gpu match the performance of rtx 3080. If not rtx 3080 than which gpu it can compete?

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Mohammad.M
Mohammad.M

my idea is maybe those numbers are not right you have to test it but I except amazing performance from apple

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Marlon Brenes
Marlon Brenes

I think the charts are correct. I would expect similar real-life performance on these machines. They did the same with the first iteration of the M1 and everything checked out. What they're not open about is the *workload* employed for these benchmarks. This is obviously a marketing strategy.  In that sense, I would expect these benchmarks to be close to real-life results but only on certain workloads.

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takatakiful
takatakiful

"it's just weird, it's.. unconventional". Yup, Apple does this. And it always works. Look at the iPhone design which is similar, look at AirPods which everyone are using...

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Mekaa
Mekaa

Please i want to buy dell alienware x17 with i9 processor can you provide me with a link to buy 💔 i would really appreciate it

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Teng's World
Teng's World

Thank you this is very informative. Watching here from Philippines 🇵🇭

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HoLDoN4Sec
HoLDoN4Sec

Apple lost its design originality. literally using a near 1:1 chassis design replica of the unibody macbooks from over a decade ago lol but seriously, that notch is hideous on iPhones but has its purpose, why the fuck even bring it up to macbooks if its literally only holding a tiny webcam in it with huge bezels in both corners? Apple, you couldn't increase the top bezel frame thickness by 3-4mm ? sheesh... such a waste of screen real-estate for us who use full screen apps on macos...

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Waleed Tawfik
Waleed Tawfik

The notch is just for 14 inch model not for 16 one

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Mojtaba Mousavi
Mojtaba Mousavi

You are surprisingly good at your job. Well done.

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Faisal khan
Faisal khan

always a delight to watch your review.

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Christopher Ball
Christopher Ball

Why are you in a space shuttle

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Captain gaming
Captain gaming

can it game

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Dash iKi
Dash iKi

That wire on that monitor is bothering me. Get rid of it immediately.

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ерунда сэндвич
ерунда сэндвич

So u don't have the MacBook neither

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E.V.X
E.V.X

When it comes to CAD, cfd and scientific simulation, it will never be supported on arm64 seriously at all. So all the huff and puff for me is meh. Maybe if all I do is video editing on first party macos software then sure.

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OnlyTheBest
OnlyTheBest

Confirmed: "16-inch MacBook Pro models configured with the M1 Max chip feature a new High Power Mode to maximize performance for intensive, sustained workloads, according to Apple. High Power Mode is not available on other models." Dave called it first, good job. Glad i didn't get the 14" m1 max, feel bad for the folks who got it, i guess they can always return it for the 16"

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