The Framework Laptop - I Love It!

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    My review of the Framework Laptop. This is the best laptop you can get right now if you want a completely repairable and upgradeable device.
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I WANNA HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON FRAMEWORK! Is it cool to you? do you believe in it? would you get one? think they'll surrvive? I think this is the longest laptop video i've ever done cuz there's so much to talk about. Thanks for watching!

3 maanden geleden
Tim Huang
Tim Huang

try the website. Shit don't work!!!!

12 dagen geleden
tibo
tibo

I would have bought if touchscreen 2 in 1 ( Surface Pro style) - waiting for framework here

12 dagen geleden
Vijay Jayaram
Vijay Jayaram

@Debajyoti Majumder I m game

16 dagen geleden
Vijay Jayaram
Vijay Jayaram

I come from a family where we get things repaired or if we can,we do it ourselves. TV sound system,bike,atleast some basic stuff.but slowly things changed.its more like,use n throw.replace but not repair With this modular approach,I guess we are going back to repair days.this is how it should be.why not learn a bit or two about the thing we use daily,repair or get it repaired. Let's see whare it reaches

16 dagen geleden
Khalid Thwiny
Khalid Thwiny

I like the idea, but I think it will probably disappear in a few years!

17 dagen geleden
William Nale
William Nale

Will a higher wattage (18W) USB C charger suffice for it's charging needs? I have a few, so I don't want to buy another if I don't need to..

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Illusioon
Illusioon

Can you change CPU?

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INXISIV
INXISIV

2021 and no timestamps 🧐

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Anthony Jarrad
Anthony Jarrad

Go all in, you only live once

5 dagen geleden
Renato Antunes
Renato Antunes

My next laptop

6 dagen geleden
JPcopter
JPcopter

I want to see framework become a laptop chassis and motherboard company. I would love for laptops to stop having integrated CPU's and gpu's. We have been doing to for PC for forever. Technology has gotten just small enough recently that modular laptops are viable and would be preferred just like it is for PC. This would also trigger having more SFF pc's

6 dagen geleden
r3medy5
r3medy5

I'ev seen 3 reviews of these so far and no ones taking about the use of this in an office environment/professional environment. Yes post pandemic WFH does significantly alter the norm of offices and workspaces, but they wont be gone forever. That in mind, the IO this laptop offers is huge for the small business to large enterprise. The ability to swap in/out the needed ports ON THE FLY to connect to external displays, projectors, data banks, printers etc is huge. Eliminates all dongles and extra wires, if you clients IT structure is out dated, not a problem swap out for a VGA and USB A port...the powerpoint deck continues on.

6 dagen geleden
flipity flop
flipity flop

well what if public schools make it a standard class where you buy these kits and build the laptops instead of just giving out premades and then kids learn how to build and repair electronics and maybe the culture of electronics in 1st world countries goes from buying for convenience, to buying for sustainability and reparability and boom, e waste goes down the drain

7 dagen geleden
snaH
snaH

I would love it if projects like this received subsidies. It would be so sick to see modularity becoming somewhat mainstream. I know, both a controversial and probably utopian thought.

9 dagen geleden
rml695
rml695

I like this from a hardware standpoint (though it would be interesting to see a system with a socketed CPU and/or GPU setup). My one sticking point is Windows. I recently discovered Proton with steam to enhance gaming on Linux, and I’ve used Linux off and on for 15 years. I realize you can put Linux on this, but (and yes this is nitpicking), it would be nice to let it come barebones on the software and/or installing a key with a screen in it where the Windows key is so when you do put Linux on it, the windows key becomes a “Super” key (the Linux equivalent to activate your program or system menus). Thoughts?

11 dagen geleden
Pandhu Vandhita
Pandhu Vandhita

I would imagine that even if AMD and Nvidia eventually make modular GPUs, they will be making them at a slower rate than regular mobile GPUs, but it is still pretty cool to actually have more choice. Also, if this thing got the thunderbolt, that's gonna be a real game changer.

12 dagen geleden
Tynted
Tynted

I will absolutely buy one of these in the future if they put a good touchscreen with pen support and GPU in it! Really hoping that's their next step.

12 dagen geleden
Tree Power
Tree Power

A mile away from Apple thankfully…

13 dagen geleden
Redge Paler
Redge Paler

Hello, can you make a review of the Acer vero laptop? thanks.

13 dagen geleden
Vincent Morel
Vincent Morel

Best review ever! Would love to havee one! Hope people would go this route.

13 dagen geleden
Yuri L
Yuri L

This could work,if we had other manufacturers support this initiative by using same components, like, you know, PC did in the beginning )

13 dagen geleden
Shahaaim
Shahaaim

Now everyone who rips on Apple for the lack of upgradability and repairability can buy this one, shut the fuck up and let Apple do what they do. 🤷‍♂️

15 dagen geleden
bernie-beltran munoz
bernie-beltran munoz

The reality is .. I’d going to be very very hard to get in to the market at this point when is so “convenient” to upgrade…! The idea is very cool..!

16 dagen geleden
Tengku Muliya
Tengku Muliya

lets be honest. this is a very niche laptop. most people will change their laptops in a few years even if the laptops are still fine. consumerism 101. the qualm I have with tech youtubers are they always preach about user upgradability yet they are the one to spring up for the newest, latest and greatest. walk the talk. the only benefit I see from this laptop is that when the firsthand user inevitably sell the laptop, the newer user have somewhat a bit more latitude in what they can upgrade compared to normal laptop. that's it.

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Friendly Simple Guy
Friendly Simple Guy

is there something that I can upgrade my gpu

16 dagen geleden
3d guy247
3d guy247

Why are you in jail though?

16 dagen geleden
Sanoop Siby
Sanoop Siby

Is there no GPU?

18 dagen geleden
Window4503
Window4503

Then give “the masses” other reasons to want a repairable laptop! I’m not an enthusiast and don’t even know what a motherboard does (sue me), but I’m considering this as my next laptop simply because I want the right to repair (and the ability to swap ports…that’s cool!). If this thing is going to take off, the tech enthusiast community needs to find reasons and problems that are more relevant to the average person. Coding is trendy now. You can find it as kid’s toys Why? Because it’s now considered good for developing minds and a headstart at what parents believe will be a successful future. To keep this thing from being too niche, people need to stop thinking about it like a niche. There’s no reason to assume this could never stand a chance in the mainstream.

18 dagen geleden
Tiagraj I
Tiagraj I

Sweaty about laptops. That got me laughing. I think most of the discomfort about replacing parts is if the parts are bad while assembling. The whole process of warranty claims and the burden of proving it is not your fault can be so annoying. Personally I will like to get the whole thing assembled and working to save me time

18 dagen geleden
Gased
Gased

They built this as you upgrade your laptop components every second. I feel it's completely unnecessary

19 dagen geleden
Jackson Burger
Jackson Burger

This might actually work really well in the business market. For that co-worker who is always breaking his computer? Or instead of those toughbooks that people are buying? Just a thought.

19 dagen geleden
Kelly Barber
Kelly Barber

If this is an enthusiast laptop, Framework is likely bankrupt in a couple of years in my opinion. The only way I see this going mainstream is if they aim at large companies (especially public non-tech companies) and public educational institutions. Places that need their tech to last a long time and don't have serious hardware demands. Although, I do kind of feel that something that is built to last a long time with cheap reparable components is inherently a bad business model if it does not have massive scale. You're literally creating a system where your company isn't needed for anything once you reach scale.

19 dagen geleden
Nikhil Shinde
Nikhil Shinde

Reminds me of old days when everything was so repairable at home

20 dagen geleden
Dat Dang
Dat Dang

it's funny how the upgradability of this laptop, which is its selling point, was standard for laptops just 3-4 years ago. Except for the modular ports, this laptop is nothing special in terms of upgradability compared to Thinkpads from 2019 and before

20 dagen geleden
James Velasco
James Velasco

hahaha $1000 dollars

20 dagen geleden
Pavan Sreerama
Pavan Sreerama

This would be big if they succeeds. I would imagine the it would significantly reduce the amount of e-waste. Also if this becomes popular hopefully apple and microsoft will follow suit,

20 dagen geleden
Shawn
Shawn

If they build it for 100% harIf they build it to work with Linux I'll buy one I'm never going back to Windows

20 dagen geleden
Anthony Soto
Anthony Soto

I’m excited for this a laptop that is deemed build what you want not what we sell to you with extra things we tossed in there. :) Honestly give the customer more options on what we can change like going into a expensive gaming pc without charging fees and just selling the supply :) can’t wait to look for more reviews my Girlfriend and I is budgeting for a laptop I really hope this is the one our budget is $1000 to $1500 and we are looking at apple for premium specs and security and screen clarity.

20 dagen geleden
Arafat Jahangir Hridoy
Arafat Jahangir Hridoy

Oh, the aquarium behind is lit...❤️

21 dag geleden
dynetrax
dynetrax

serviceable not "DiSsAsEmBlEaBle" LUL

21 dag geleden
Telluwide
Telluwide

I hate Windows! I'll stick with Apple OS! These aren't cheap either!

22 dagen geleden
John Smith
John Smith

Everyone "prefers" not having to swap something themselves ... UNTIL they've gotta shell out $1500 to upgrade a cpu which costs maybe $300 with this. Or $1000 to fix a $99 keyboard. You can ALWAYS find someone with the skills to replace these things. This idea is brilliant.

22 dagen geleden
Ratul Saha
Ratul Saha

Damn, that screen flex just throws me off. Wish it was sturdier. That just gives me anxiety. Edit: The screen is "slightly" below average? Dude look at the Macbook screens. Compared to that this screen is like my 500$ Lenovo laptop. Edit 2: Not to mention I can stack 2 MacBooks Airs to match that thickness lmao. Not to mention the power an M1 Macbook Air gives me.

22 dagen geleden
S M
S M

When I want to see stuff I've never seen before I just do drugs.

23 dagen geleden
Mike Rodick
Mike Rodick

Lovely, but unfortunately you can buy a surface pro 8 with thunderbolt(access to egpu with rtx3090 etc) for close to that price, and you also need their proprietary modules for now, if you are a customer suggest them to reduce the price for next iterations, add thunderbolt ports, and make enclosures for their inner ports instead of their proprietary accessories.

23 dagen geleden
dadoprom
dadoprom

Finally... every product on this planet should be made like this, easy upgradable and repairable ... for example - apple is just producing waste, they are not eco friendly... (if all is repairable, there would be 1/1000 of waste versus today) And also all the software produced should be open sourced by law... every person should be able to look through code. It is a huge stupidity from all of us that we allowed and agreed to buy closed sourced propriety software...

23 dagen geleden
ASWIN AJAY
ASWIN AJAY

Yeah.. I am definitely worried about the business model of the company. Hope this thing takes off!

23 dagen geleden
Morgan Sun
Morgan Sun

wowo

24 dagen geleden
Auram Dickerson
Auram Dickerson

Time to invent the USB-C video card for gaming.

24 dagen geleden
David W
David W

...didn't mention their "open standards" publishing of schematics, 3D printing details for expansion cards AND all specs/form factor, encouragement of 3rd party module development, creating of a sales marketplace on their website for resale, 3rd party AND hobbyists. The rather obvious ability to upgrade individual components like screen and motherboard as enhancements are pushed.

25 dagen geleden
Shaun S
Shaun S

This would make an amazing learning tool. A "my first laptop upgrade". Even if it just helps people think of computers as collections of parts rather than a discreet unit that works / doesn't work would be a win.

26 dagen geleden
Turf Surf
Turf Surf

Always respect a company that dares to try something new.

26 dagen geleden
TruthAdv
TruthAdv

Once they get swappable graphics cards, it will be a game changer. Would love to see it one day.

26 dagen geleden
christian olsen
christian olsen

this is the the coolest laptop ever i cant wait until they start selling them in europe

26 dagen geleden
Prabeesh Raman
Prabeesh Raman

Is he in basement that ceiling seems to be awfully close

27 dagen geleden
Jens Erik Bech
Jens Erik Bech

"The Premium stuff"? The stuff that is glued together? "The Premium stuff" must obviously be the stuff you can repair. "I like it? But there are something that is thinner"? "Thinner"?! Thinner was a feature from the oll' days! The "New black" are the larger, wider. Just look at the new Macs. Get a grip of yourself!;-)

29 dagen geleden
LABAMBA Legendary
LABAMBA Legendary

That doesn’t make any sense

29 dagen geleden
RECutopia
RECutopia

If New York is underwater by 2050 (check Google simulations), I see here the BEST laptop option to reduce electronic waste ;) it's amazing to see initiatives pop all around the world, if not against climate change, at least towards reparability !

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shubham agnihotri
shubham agnihotri

I've never felt my asus laptop wasn't upgradable, they're cashing in on right to repair

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mokiloke
mokiloke

Love it. I dont mind a little more thickness if i can get a GTX gpu in it. Framework should state that if they go out of business that they will open source everything at that point, and the units could be upgraded by future companies, and become a modders framework like the Pi for years to come. Laptops (high performance) are typically lasting me 2 years, but im hoping with the right care my latest ASUS i can keen going for 5 years, if i take care of battery and screen. Also i think they should include disposal costs on electronics and other highly toxic landfill products. If that was high enough to encourage people to double the lifespan of their laptops, it would make a huge dent in consumption.

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S R
S R

he has a drawer of laptops.

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Chuckie Miguel Bacolod
Chuckie Miguel Bacolod

The whole thing looks very flimsy

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MrOsiz
MrOsiz

I'd like to see other products from them - of course a gaming laptop,an android tablet, a smartphone maybe, i am so sick of batteries that are glued deep inside, and Fairphone is not that good

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MR G
MR G

Which dialect says "plug it up" for wires? Canada?

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Josh Bate
Josh Bate

I love your videos Dave, but my feedback is that this one felt a bit long-winded. Keep up the good work though!

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Dr Moviez
Dr Moviez

It looks like a macbook

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bonob0123
bonob0123

weight?

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Dennis Maestas
Dennis Maestas

I fully plan on getting rid of my MacBook and saving for this, even if this isn’t successful like we want it to be, its incredibly important to show that this is what we want.

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cartouche
cartouche

It's a nice idea, but, it's too expensive. Comparing i5 laptops, I can buy a hp laptop with full ips display, dedicated HDMI port USB c , usb a, card reader, upgradeable ram, upgradeable SSD (the back just pops off with 6 screws), for £520 in the UK. The i5 framework with import tax and shipping would work out to over £700.... That just doesn't work for me..

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Freeman's Freedom
Freeman's Freedom

5:00 it ain't about the screw and magnets vs glue, but tolerances. They do need to tighten the manufacturing tolerances to remove the sloppiness. Though I can see how that slipped for a 1st gen product where the concerns were on "making this thing repairable" more than "let's make a machine that looks slick at the lowest manufacturing price"

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brojohnmcd
brojohnmcd

super agree with you. 100

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tp
tp

You talked about the thickness but not the weight. Weight wise it is very similar to those non-reparirable laptops with the same specs. Honestly weight is important, while thickness is not (unless it's a super thick gaming laptop) So I disagree that they made a signficant compromise by it being a bit thicker than competitors.

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J Allison
J Allison

It does seem to have that $500-$600 acer laptop build quality. I understand why tinkerers would like it though, but Dave's right in that 99% probably won't care and that's a big hurdle for a business. I've opened and fixed my xbox one controller when the bumper broke, I've tried to fix a fan but it was so old the manufacturer said they didn't make replacement parts anymore (but the point was I opened it and tried to fix it before getting another one), and I understand the right to repair cause. All that said, this laptop seems like a dud if this is the best the company can put out. I don't think there are enough sweaty laptop nerds who would buy this on principle to keep this company afloat.

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sieprgmr
sieprgmr

I am waiting for the change of buying one here in EU.

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Brandon Giesing
Brandon Giesing

It remains to be seen how upgradable the internal parts will be as that definitely will rely on Framework existing into the future but they were insanely smart to make the external modular parts merely USB-C, being standard means anyone can make modules forever even if Framework dies and considering one of the most common reasons for repairing devices is broken ports, it's amazing for that part to be the easiest to replace even if the company doesn't exist

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Lawson Kennamer
Lawson Kennamer

I love my framework so much it just came in and I'm very satisfied. The build quality is incredible, much higher than I was expecting.

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William Nale
William Nale

That's great. Does the outer case feel sturdy? I have a M1 MBA with great build quality but zero upgradeability and very poor repairability. I hope Framework really catches on so the big co's start offering products like this too. I think the original MBA ushered us into this world of glued/soldered throwaways...

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kuselisebith
kuselisebith

more cooling (louder fan) equals in more components lifespan - because heats kills everything over time. A friend of minde had 3 motherboard replaces because of heat deth over time.. i would like to have a proper cooled device than a super silent battery and chip fryer..

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W1PA
W1PA

You could have an incredible loud fan, but if its not effective at removing hot air, its useless

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Ekin Elçi
Ekin Elçi

Let's see those Apple haters and right to repair enthusiasts. Are they really gonna buy this or not?

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elizabeth eckhardt
elizabeth eckhardt

The one thing it lacks is a touch screen. Once it gets the touch screen then FTW. For now I just dont need yet another laptop in this form factor else, I would buy one to be supportive.

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Mahendra Malla
Mahendra Malla

Big companies can do it but they don't because they can't profit from high repairability feature

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Mahendra Malla
Mahendra Malla

"Disassemblable"

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Ali Maghsudi
Ali Maghsudi

My opinion: it will fail like other modular techs.

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Yuriy from America
Yuriy from America

It makes no sense as a laptop. DIY is great for a hobby but most people want to get something that lets them get to work with as little overhead as possible. Thats why I think the Apple silicon laptops are the future, they get out of the way and let you do the thing that you bought your computer for (and continue to let you do that for record battery times). For tinkering, desktop (or raspberry pi if you want to get close to the metal) building is the way to go.

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Jasper Lim
Jasper Lim

They can combine the price of the laptop with some monthly subscription service.

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W1PA
W1PA

No one would buy it

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W1PA
W1PA

That would just be a shit idea

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Samantha Gregory
Samantha Gregory

The small signature accidentally mark because stranger gradually applaud out a forgetful apartment. same, jazzy magazine

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CaptCapitalist
CaptCapitalist

ok so you don't even go over the specs??

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W1PA
W1PA

You can just find them online

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I C
I C

They need to sell the idea to large IT departments for big accounting, consulting or government departments. They could wipeout the competition if they get those IT departments on side.

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Monkey Bob
Monkey Bob

I want to get it in Germany. Would buy one immediately

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nothing nathing
nothing nathing

if this concept works imagine in 5 years from now to change only the motherboard and be up to date and keeping the rest laptop ( monitor chassis batery if its good and keyboard) thats may save u money at the end .

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vishnu santhosh
vishnu santhosh

i really want this to succeed.

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Thalass
Thalass

Even if the user isn't comfortable repairing or upgrading their laptop it'll be cheaper and easier for a local computer shop to fix it for them. It's still a win, I think

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Hezekiah Domowski
Hezekiah Domowski

Whenever people compare thickness of laptops they do it "normal side up" but that penalizes taller feet. I say, put them on the table upside-down and compare the thickness that way.

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Palpac
Palpac

If they ship them world wide then watch them grow. I'm in New Zealand but saw on a NZ forum that they don't ship to NZ.

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Fedor Russel
Fedor Russel

Honestly the only way I see a modular device such this one to ever work is that third parties need to be able and even encouraged to manufacture components for the device. I mean why would I buy a modular device where if I'm only allowed to buy the parts of my device from only 1 company

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notthere83
notthere83

“If all those big companies out there have tried…” - wait what?

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Paul Gendron
Paul Gendron

Great idea... But it'll never hit the mainstream market. Imho.

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Ketan Patel
Ketan Patel

So many assumptions that you made in his video as incorrect. Big companies intentionally do not make easily repairable devices. I m sure you know that. We all need to work together to make Framework, and hopefully other companies in the future, a success.

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Andres Ramos
Andres Ramos

The day it ships to my country, the day I buy one. I like the concept of easy repairability and upgradability, I have to pay a man to upgrade the RAM and repair the screen in my current laptop because the screen was glued af. I hope they succeed and stay with us for many years, of at least, that the big companies see this and make their own repairable laptops.

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wtbman
wtbman

Weren't laptop GPUs somewhat modular back in the day? "MXM socketed GPUs"

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T C
T C

stupid idea, just my opinion

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rokko
rokko

i want this to succeed so bad! And I hope by doing well, it will become less expensive. If I was in the market for a laptop right now, this would be at the top of my list.

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Luna Umbra
Luna Umbra

Y'all seen to forget what laptops were like ten years ago. Damn

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Barry Scully
Barry Scully

I do not see any way so far to upgrade the video card. Hopefully if this manages to expand we will see the ability to switch out for other cpu/gpu combos. Pretty much everything else I like about the design and still might consider picking one up. I would love to start to see some of these designs elements open to other companies so that we can get back to the concept of standard interfaces and the ability to buy components to be interchangeable. It is a difficult concept from a business point of view because you have to believe that people will still buy your components and that you can compete with a good product and not just as another way to lock people into buying just from you.

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Stephen Kurni Cloud
Stephen Kurni Cloud

For me, I need 2 laptops. One for gaming, and the other one for my daily drivers. If framework has a small tablet-like laptop which can have a good Pen-support, it can easily replace my daily drivers.

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Hom Tom
Hom Tom

nobody cares about thickness, weight? bezel? ok

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